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Post by howlerscoyotecafe on Jun 13, 2009 3:06:33 GMT -5
I didn't bother to search for it.. but I know there was like a 10 page thread on here a while back on how the Pens would never win a cup with Fleury...
And although I never entered my personal opinion on it.. mostly because I thought it just needed to play itself out and let time tell its own story...
I'm guessing all ya'll now need to eat some crow pie.. go for it!!!
:>)
Me
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Post by mullhawk on Jun 13, 2009 16:27:52 GMT -5
He did let up one soft goal, but he saved the motherfucking day in the last few seconds, with the save of the year, I get the chills just thinking about it, Flower is the man...
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Post by iatls on Jun 15, 2009 23:12:21 GMT -5
winning a cup doesn't make him a good goalie.. it makes him a goalie on a good team.
if the flyers won the cup and i was bashing biron all year, everyone would say the same thing.. it doesn't make biron a good goalie.. it just makes him a goalie that plays on a good team. i've been watching the penguins for a long time... i still think he could develop into a number one goalie.. but that doesn't mean he is currently a good goalie, it just means he's young and he's lucky to have a good team around him... he was totally beat on the kronwall shot... it's just a good thing it was about a half an inch to high, or we might not even be having this conversation.
(also, scuderi made the save in game 6 - so it's not like he saved us that game while he was flopping around on the other side of the ice)
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Post by Razberry on Jun 16, 2009 8:03:11 GMT -5
I absolutely adore MAF. And during the parade, he apologized for those soft goals, dammit! And to the parents of little children since he says "bad words" sometimes. Goddamn is he cute.
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Post by hird82 on Jun 16, 2009 14:18:20 GMT -5
I didn't bother to search for it.. but I know there was like a 10 page thread on here a while back on how the Pens would never win a cup with Fleury... And although I never entered my personal opinion on it.. mostly because I thought it just needed to play itself out and let time tell its own story... I'm guessing all ya'll now need to eat some crow pie.. go for it!!! :>) Me Also i bet some of those people that were complaining about the parade for the super bowl went to this parade!!! At least i know some of the people that complained did.
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Post by howlerscoyotecafe on Jun 16, 2009 15:37:25 GMT -5
I didn't bother to search for it.. but I know there was like a 10 page thread on here a while back on how the Pens would never win a cup with Fleury... And although I never entered my personal opinion on it.. mostly because I thought it just needed to play itself out and let time tell its own story... I'm guessing all ya'll now need to eat some crow pie.. go for it!!! :>) Me Also i bet some of those people that were complaining about the parade for the super bowl went to this parade!!! At least i know some of the people that complained did. Yeah, I agree.. And I was not, and will not, argue about whether or not Fleury is a good/great goalie. Obviously he is a work on progress. He is young, has much to learn. I said, there were statements made that the Pens 'would never win a cup with Fleury in goal' I don't remember who made them and I am too damn lazy to search for that thread and find it.. but it is those statements that must now be retracted...
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Post by iatls on Jun 16, 2009 16:45:03 GMT -5
yea, i think fans make statements like that out of fanaticism and obviously make over the top statements to drive home their points.. but i'm sure tons of people have said "detroit would never compete with osgood" and so on.. i mean, there's an argument for everyone because teams are so evenly matched in the playoffs, but let's face it.. osgood outplayed fleury in the final.. and it was a matter of goals at key times that allowed the pens the opportunity to play a game 7 and win the cup..
you can make an argument that fleury's save on lidstrom was the difference - and i don't have a great argument, other than to say .. it's one fucking save vs. a mountain of soft goals.. it just so happens the one save came at an interesting time.
personally, i'm really glad the team proved they can win a cup without an elite goalie, and in that, making me confident that fleury doesn't have to blossom for a few years and the team can still win tough games.
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Post by andrew on Jun 19, 2009 7:48:57 GMT -5
I didn't bother to search for it.. but I know there was like a 10 page thread on here a while back on how the Pens would never win a cup with Fleury... And although I never entered my personal opinion on it.. mostly because I thought it just needed to play itself out and let time tell its own story... I'm guessing all ya'll now need to eat some crow pie.. go for it!!! :>) Me Also i bet some of those people that were complaining about the parade for the super bowl went to this parade!!! At least i know some of the people that complained did. i didnt go.
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